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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:52 am  |  Posted from: Canada
  

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All of our news ticker lines here here are saying there has been a sharp upturn in racial violence there in the UK since the BREXIT vote. No explanation just the ticker line comment.

Has there been? And what would account for it? (Just the issue that part of the reason for Brexit is that the UK wants to control its borders?)


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 Post subject: Re: Brexit and Violence
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:36 am  |  Posted from: United Kingdom
  

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I would not take too much notice LLL the news feeds are desperately looking for any angle on this vote, the more doom and gloom the better for them. Yes there have been some instances reported of people being abusive towards some immigrants, but that is nothing new. There will always be the moronic low life elements in any country that do not have the brain power to distinguish between a desire to 'control' immigration as opposed to kicking people out who live here which is not what people voted for, all I can say is that there are NOT 17 million racists in the UK and anyone trying to portray the vote as anything but that is just trying to make trouble or more likely they are stinging because they lost the vote. For example Birmingham, one of our biggest Northern cities is probably the most ethnically diverse and contains one of the largest ethnic communities in the North of Britain voted overwhelmingly for Brexit, so that should dismiss the myth being put about that the issues were all about immigration.

The West Midlands has the second largest ethnic minority population in the UK where over 12% of the population is non-white. London has the largest ethnic minority population in the UK where of the 6.4 million ethnic minorities in the UK nearly half, 42.3%, live in London.

The above demographic of ethnic minorities in London goes a long way to explaining why it was only the London area that had a massive 'remain' vote when compared with the rest of the UK, Scotland excluded who had their own agenda. So it could be argued that if any racialism was being displayed it was coming from the ethnic minorities in London. Think of a similar vote being taken and how areas such as Miami would vote.

Having said all that, if you recall I have often commented and warned on the fact that the open door immigration policy was a festering sore with many voters who felt their views were being ignored by successive governments and that there would be a knee jerk reaction against its continuation unless it was dealt with. Our membership of the EU and our having to comply with the clause that allowed for 'Free movement within the EU' has only exacerbated the situation especially with there refusal to address the UK's concerns over this, especially with the recent uncontrolled flood from the Middle East.

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 Post subject: Re: Brexit and Violence
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:04 pm  |  Posted from: United Kingdom
  

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Horus, I don't think you can call the Birmingham result Overwhelming. It was only about 0.5% swing from the mean and that was on a lower than national average turnout. What it does raise, as does the national result, is the fact that the result was close and in the forthcoming negotiations the Remainers must be considered in any final deals.

George Osborne has attempted to cool the markets by expressing confidence in the UK economy and stating that a possible Brexit win had been taken into account. Yeah, and pigs can fly....

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 Post subject: Re: Brexit and Violence
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:36 pm  |  Posted from: United Kingdom
  

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Grandad, a total of 450,702 Brummies voted in the referendum, with 223,451 putting their cross for remain and 227,251 voting leave. It meant 49.5% voted to remain and 50.5% voted to leave which is 1%, OK maybe not 'overwhelming' but certainly a surprise vote for that area of the North and of course the majority said 'out'. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Brexit and Violence
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:27 pm  |  Posted from: United Kingdom
  

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I agree H; those are the figures I have. Just my strange way of looking at numbers. I see it as just a 0.5% swing from the mean. ie. If just one in 200 more had voted REMAIN, it would have been level pegging and that is why I said it was not overwhelming. I worked with numbers too long in my employment I suppose. :( :lol:

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